Diskussion:Luciobarbus graellsii

Systematik

It is here placed in Luciobarbus following the IUCN, but that genus is very closely related to the other typical barbels and perhaps better considered a mere subgenus of Barbus. The Andalusian Barbel was formerly included in L. bocagei as subspecies.[1] In addition, L. graellsii has – like its close relative the "Albanian Barbel" (L. albanicus) and the slightly more distantly related Red-tailed Barbel (Barbus haasi) – also been placed in Messinobarbus. But even if that genus is valid, it is probably incorrect to do so. Wie kann man das besser übersetzen? Gruss, --Graf zu Pappenheim (Diskussion) 05:49, 29. Nov. 2012 (CET)

Description

Diagnosed from other species of Barbus and Luciobarbus in Iberian Peninsula by having the following characters: lateral line with 43-48 + 2-3 scales; last simple dorsal ray slender, not serrated posteriorly in adults, occasionally with a few small, widely set serrae in individuals smaller than about 15 cm SL; posterior barbel reaching beyond posterior margin of eye; lower lip thick, without median lobe; and lower jaw tip covered by lower lip. Auch mit dieser Beschreibung aus Fishbase tut man sich schwer. Gruss, --Graf zu Pappenheim (Diskussion) 05:49, 29. Nov. 2012 (CET)