Benutzer Diskussion:Bla bla/Archiv/2007
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Mein Tipp für deinen Einstieg in Wikipedia: Sei mutig, aber respektiere die Leistungen anderer User! ;-) Herzlich Willkommen! --Schwalbe Disku 16:01, 20. Dez 2005 (CET)
- Hallo Bla bla. hatte den Vandalismus-Unfug bei Solschenizyn gar nicht bemerkt in der Eile, danke!--80.228.199.222 14:53, 14. Feb 2006 (CET)--80.228.199.222 14:57, 14. Feb 2006 (CET)--Init 14:58, 14. Feb 2006 (CET)
4. Treffen Stuttgart 2006
Hallo Bla bla,
auf der Diskussionseite Stuttgart gibt es ein paar Interessenten für ein Treffen in Stuttgart 2006. Hättest Du auch Interesse? Wenn Ja, wäre es nett, wenn Du Dich an der Diskussion beteiligen würdest. Danke - Viele Grüße --Joachim Köhler 22:38, 18. Feb 2006 (CET)
- Hallo Joachim, danke für Deine Nachricht. Im Augenblick bin ich nicht so interessiert, aber ich werde die Diskussion mal im Auge behalten. --Bla bla 10:14, 1. Mär 2006 (CET)
Einstein
Hallöle,
persönlich halte ich diese Einfügung für eher irrelevant, hab aber gerade Beißhemmungen, noch mehr zu streichen -- daher frage ich stattdessen nach Deiner Quelle ... Danke & Grüße --Interpretix 21:50, 11. Mär 2006 (CET)
- Hallo,
eine entsprechende Suche mit Google bringt einige seriöse Seiten, die das schreiben. In der englischen Wikipedia ist es auch erwähnt. Über die Relevanz kann man sicher streiten, es gibt einen allgemeinen Artikel zum Thema Letzte Worte, der sie (bzw. hier: ihr Fehlen) für erwähnenswert hält. Ich finde es jedenfalls bei Einstein interessant, dass er auch nach 22 Jahren in Princeton und seiner (verständlichen) Ablehnung Deutschlands immer noch deutsch sprach. Danke, dass Du den Satz nicht kommentarlos gestrichen hast. Wenn noch jemand der Meinung sein sollte, dass er wieder raus sollte, werde ich mich sicher nicht dagegenstellen. Gruß, --Bla bla 21:32, 12. Mär 2006 (CET)
Dear Bla bla, Look first for discussion. If you want make a changes be ready for mediation. I do not accept falsifications. Give me you arguments. You are new around the Jan Dzierzon subject I am there for months. Andrew (nicht signierter Beitrag von 131.104.218.183 (Diskussion) )
- I did look at the Diskussion:Johann_Dzierzon but there is no sign of any new argument from your side. You didn't answer any of my questions or follow any of my suggestions. The question is, who wants to enter false data, you or all other people who write on this article? I have read the whole discussion and I know that you are there for months with different IPs (131.104.218.183, 131.104.218.135 131.104.218.195) and different user names (Aserafin, Bserafin). But still you haven't brought any valid proof, you haven't convinced anyone of your view and you haven't managed to enter your viewpoint in the article for longer than four (4!) hours in a row despite of seven (7!) attempts. Instead because of you the article was semi-protected. This is getting you nowhere. It would be nice if you were ready for mediation but I haven't seen anything to prove it. --Bla bla bla 20:46, 20. Nov. 2006 (CET)
If you want to include in the articles Johann Dzierzon and Geschichte der Imkerei that he considered himself a member of the Polish people you have to give some plausible and credible sources for this.
- Yes I provided the sources written in English and Polish.
Your word and your belief are not enough for Wikipedia and mentioning some Polish printed papers is insufficient.
- Yes? And what would you consider as sufficient :) Those are not papers those are books anyway. What is you proof Jan Dzierzon was German?
Until you present some proof we will keep to sources like the homepage of Dzierzoniów [3] where your fellow countrymen write Jan Dzierzon sympathised with the Lower Silesian people.
- Silesian are Polish. There is nothing like Silesian nation. Creating some ideas to disturb piece in neighboring country? We know it from history.
He was born and lived in Prussia and was therefor a prussian citizen.
- I am Canadian citizen but I am Polish. Citizenship has nothing to do with nationality. Prussia does not exist anymore, anyway.
Most of the people of his homeland Silesia considered themselves as Germans or Silesians.
- You taking nonsense. In total Germans in Poland is 300.000 those who want be called Silesian only is 170.000. In total it is less then Wroclaw population. For you war propaganda you should be legally charged.
If you believe that he considered himself as part of the Polish minority you have to give some evidence.
- Read at least one position provided there. Contact New European who speaks Polish. He was in arguing with me. He speaks German also. Get information from him. This is not my discovery that Jan Dzierzon was Polish. Nobody serious in Poland would say Dzierzon was German or Prussian nationality.
- You want mediation give me an authority in beekeeping history in Poland, German or wherever. He can be an mediator between us. You know nothing about Dzierzon bibliography.
Andrew (nicht signierter Beitrag von 131.104.218.183 (Diskussion) )
- I don't need a proof he was German because nobody wrote that he was, it's you who understands it that way. Everybody else than you, including New European writes that Dzierzon was Silesian.
Silesian means the same for Polish as Bavarians for German. Just resident of Silesia. I am Mazovian but first above all Polish.
- I know that Prussia doesn't exist any more but it did exist at the lifetime of Dzierzon.
And Prussia is not equal Germany and had been inhabited by Polish and other nations who unnecessary cherish ocupation of their native lands.
- Do you want to declare him to be today a dead Polish body because he's in a grave in Poland?
No. Because he set: "As my name says I am Pole.." and so on, so on.
- You contradict yourself by saying Silesian are Polish but they do not exist as a nation.
Orginaly Silesian had been slavic tribe which become part of Polish nation in IX cetury.
- I have the impression that you are having problems understanding English as well as German.
That is you impression. For sure you do not speak better English then mine :)
- When I wrote Most of the people of his homeland Silesia considered themselves as Germans or Silesians. I meant of course at the 19th Century.
This already past and you want me accept Prussian Empire propaganda. Good source :D :D
- The numbers you are stating are from nowadays. So it's you who is talking nonsense. Please leave out any allusions on any war, it's not very polite.
In what sense? There was dozens of German-Polish wars. It means you can not balance agresion from both sides?
- Let's see, if you can agree with three simple facts:
- In 1900 the people who lived in Silesia were in the majority of German origin.
- Let's see, if you can agree with three simple facts:
No true. 60% were Polish in 1918 :)
- In 1945/46 most of the people living in Silesia left and went to Germany while many Polish people came to Silesia.
This I do not know but it could be if German went to this area in WWII and Polish were sent to concentration camps.
- Today the majority of the people living in Silesia are Polish.
Yes it is.
- I agree to all points. Do you? --Bla bla bla 23:05, 20. Nov. 2006 (CET)
And were is you point? (nicht signierter Beitrag von Aserafin (Diskussion | Beiträge) )
- My point is to show that your Polish nationalism does not allow you to accept historical facts. The majority of the population of Silesia were Germans for hundreds of years until 1945 [1].
- There is nothing to discuss with you any more.
- In case you should ask, yes, Germany started WWII and committed many hideous crimes. And the former German territories which are now Polish, Russian, Czech or whatever will never become German again because we learned the lesson and because of international law. --Bla bla bla 19:07, 22. Nov. 2006 (CET)
Should I understand in you opinion the so-called “Ostgebiete des Deutschen Reiches” never before belonged to Polish Kingdom? We need not use propaganda for true. Andrew (nicht signierter Beitrag von 131.104.218.183 (Diskussion) )
- No, you get it wrong. Yes they did belong to Poland, but in the case of Silesia more than 600 years earlier. And trying to justify a breach of international law with old claims like these is propaganda. --Bla bla bla
What breach of law Sir? The territories were returned to original owners. What law says stolen goods become property of others after 600 hundred years? Even if assuming there were some German goods, the decision was Soviet Union, USA, England and France to "compensation" Polish loses. In fact, we lost more territory than gained, and we lost millions of people and in economy. Is it impoliteness to mention that? (nicht signierter Beitrag von Aserafin (Diskussion | Beiträge) )
- See here: [2] point (d). --Bla bla bla 19:07, 22. Nov. 2006 (CET)
Jan Dzierzon #2
COPY: Dear Bla bla, As I could understand, you are going to investigate the origin of Dr Jan Dzierzon. I know the individuals AHZ and NB very well, because that I would start introducing my editions right now. However because your determination to search true I will stop and wait for you results. Please be sensible however and give me the reason to hold my actions. Let me know how many days you need to have some results. I understand that you need some time and you could have some difficulties, as well as I could irritate you by my editions meantime. I would prefer nevertheless to be in contact with you period in-between. Lack of correspondence I would treat as manipulatory extensions. Best regards. Andrew 131.104.218.183 03:59, 24. Nov. 2006 (CET)
"Blabla" =
...ist das einen Artikel wert (umgangssprachl.)? Vielleicht Gruß - oh Sorry versehentl. unangemeldet. Siebzehnwolkenfrei
- Im Wiktionary gibt es einen Eintrag. Mein Benutzername hat einen etwas anderen Hintergrund, deswegen fühle ich mich jetzt nicht berufen. ;-) -- Bla bla bla 16:27, 28. Aug. 2007 (CEST)
- Ich sehe gerade, dass der Artikel von der Wikipedia in das Wiktionary verschoben wurde und deswegen hier nicht mehr erwünscht ist (siehe die Seiten, die auf Blabla verweisen). Daher denke ich, Du kannst es vergessen. Gruß, -- Bla bla bla 16:44, 28. Aug. 2007 (CEST)